American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

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American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:19 pm

Has anyone attempted to do the last century cab the Century 2000?
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Bill Craven futuristic upgrade of the Century
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And you thought Ward LaFrance had a Patriot
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Stars at night. You see them due to the light traveling from them. What you see is the stars past. If you are seeing a star that's 6,000 yrs ago. Imagine somebody on that star looking at us. They'd be seeing us as 6,000 yrs ago. Which of those two is now?
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby cargostar on Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:46 pm

Lord knows I have enough cabs lying around........anyone have any dash/interior pics???
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:22 pm

Best of what I could find in the brochures
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby ChrisMooney on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:04 pm

cargostar wrote:Lord knows I have enough cabs lying around........anyone have any dash/interior pics???


There are two in service near my work Dickson City has a Century 2000 Pumper and Throop Has a Rescue pumper. I can take a little side trip and get all the photos and measurements u need

http://www.27rescue.com/OUR%20RIG.htm

http://dcfd23.com/NEWAPPARATUS.HTM/NEWAPPARATUS1.HTM
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby cargostar on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:53 pm

That will work!!!
Thanks Chris!
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby R H on Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:07 pm

This will be cool if done! Please???
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby alf2109 on Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:14 pm

The Century 2000, what a cab! Could I help you guys out with this project?

My site: http://www.century2000.org

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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby alf2109 on Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:24 pm

ChrisMooney wrote:
cargostar wrote:Lord knows I have enough cabs lying around........anyone have any dash/interior pics???


There are two in service near my work Dickson City has a Century 2000 Pumper and Throop Has a Rescue pumper. I can take a little side trip and get all the photos and measurements u need

http://www.27rescue.com/OUR%20RIG.htm

http://dcfd23.com/NEWAPPARATUS.HTM/NEWAPPARATUS1.HTM


Chris,

If you haven't got the pics/measurements, shoot me a PM and I'd be glad to meet you and let you examine the ALF C2000 rescue pumper.
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby ChrisMooney on Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:43 pm

alf2109 wrote:
ChrisMooney wrote:
cargostar wrote:Lord knows I have enough cabs lying around........anyone have any dash/interior pics???


There are two in service near my work Dickson City has a Century 2000 Pumper and Throop Has a Rescue pumper. I can take a little side trip and get all the photos and measurements u need

http://www.27rescue.com/OUR%20RIG.htm

http://dcfd23.com/NEWAPPARATUS.HTM/NEWAPPARATUS1.HTM


Chris,

If you haven't got the pics/measurements, shoot me a PM and I'd be glad to meet you and let you examine the ALF C2000 rescue pumper.



That would be great... What city are you in... and do i know you maby???
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby alf2109 on Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:05 pm

ChrisMooney wrote:
alf2109 wrote:
ChrisMooney wrote:
cargostar wrote:Lord knows I have enough cabs lying around........anyone have any dash/interior pics???


There are two in service near my work Dickson City has a Century 2000 Pumper and Throop Has a Rescue pumper. I can take a little side trip and get all the photos and measurements u need

http://www.27rescue.com/OUR%20RIG.htm

http://dcfd23.com/NEWAPPARATUS.HTM/NEWAPPARATUS1.HTM


Chris,

If you haven't got the pics/measurements, shoot me a PM and I'd be glad to meet you and let you examine the ALF C2000 rescue pumper.



That would be great... What city are you in... and do i know you maby???


I'm in Throop. . . . Know me, maybe. . . I'm in the same business as your dad. . .
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby chariots of fire on Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:20 am

Tom Coolidge sent me his resin 700 ALF to work on. I haven't pulled it out of the box yet but as soon as I do I'll post some pics of his work.
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby ChrisMooney on Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:44 am

I got it now.... I think.... :)
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby alf2109 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:38 am

Pittsburgh, PA was one of the biggest cities to operate Century 2000s. They purchased 4 Century 2000 Water Chief IIs

The line drawings get a little crappy in the scanner. . . .

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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby hooknladderno1 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:29 pm

chariots of fire wrote:Tom Coolidge sent me his resin 700 ALF to work on. I haven't pulled it out of the box yet but as soon as I do I'll post some pics of his work.


Ohhhhh, Ohhhh, Ohhhh - Charlie, don't tease us(LOL)...


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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby chariots of fire on Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:00 am

Ok. I won't. :roll:
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby cargostar on Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:51 pm

Those drawings sure help!!
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby R H on Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:32 pm

So Dave, you gonna do a C2000 4Dr? Please? LOL
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby cody6268 on Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:22 pm

I live within five miles or so of the former Bluefield plant location, and I'm a big fan and enthusiast of Bluefield-era American LaFrance. I have the same Patriot brochure, as those brochures are really the only good info available about them.

In fact, the welder used on the family farm was purchased at the American LaFrance liquidation auction in 1994. I myself was born two years after ALF went out of business, so I really never got to see anything made there. Only thing I've seen from the plant is a few aircraft tugs, which is what is currently made there by Charlatte, and still some ALF personnel work there.

I agree, it seems everyone (except many firefighters, and those that worked at or with Figgie/ALF that I know) forgets about Bluefield era American LaFrance. Wikipedia's American LaFrance article mentions every model BUT those made in Bluefield!

I myself would love to try building a model Century 2000, Pioneer 90, or Patriot. No one made them in scale. I had suggested that Matchbox do so, and Matchbox had planned to do so, but then ALF went out of business last summer. Someone's got to make one of these that is available in stores.



Too bad the AMT American LaFrance 900s have long been retired. I have no modeling skills, but would love to build both. I wonder, that since they brought back the Chevy ambulance, if AMT's new owner, Auto World will bring the two American LaFrances back.
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby EdselDan on Thu May 12, 2016 6:57 am

Sorry to bring this up so late
But AMT did re-issue the ALF 1000 Snorkle this year
Retro-Deluxe with the Clear red & amber lenses returned too!!!!
Now to wait for the Pumper & Ladder Chief to return

Catch the corrects??
AMT offered THREE kits
Yes Both the Ladder Chief & Aero Chief Snorkle use the same body/chassis
All 3 use the same cab/interior & engine, etc.
Also they were 1000 series Not 900

Aurora's kit was a 900, though slightly incorrect.
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby Jeff_C on Mon May 30, 2016 8:59 pm

Dan, it's pretty easy to "backdate" the AMT 1000's to a 900 series.

Shave off the eagle from the front logo, paint the chrome behind the bumper, change out the front turn signals for the round lenses, and change the front tow eyes for the smaller eyelet style.

It's what I did on the Aerochief I built several years ago.

This site has a pretty good breakdown between the different ALF models:

http://www.trucksplanet.com/catalog/index.php?id=126
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby EdselDan on Tue May 31, 2016 12:50 am

Got to LOVE wireless internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try again!!!!!


Actually, I was correcting the post above me
He called the AMT Kits ALF 900's when they are 1000's

And I remember discussing the ways to Back-date them to 900's
Here at the Firehouse.

I am curious about one thing though.
Did any 900/s come with the Arrow shape tail lights like the AMT kits have
or were all delivered with round ones like in the Aurora 1/32 kit??
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Tue May 31, 2016 8:21 am

EdselDan wrote:Got to LOVE wireless internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try again!!!!!


Actually, I was correcting the post above me
He called the AMT Kits ALF 900's when they are 1000's

And I remember discussing the ways to Back-date them to 900's
Here at the Firehouse.

I am curious about one thing though.
Did any 900/s come with the Arrow shape tail lights like the AMT kits have
or were all delivered with round ones like in the Aurora 1/32 kit??


Dan:
There might have been some made that way, The Elmira shop was known to use parts as they came in, There are pictures of 800's with the 900 headlight bezels on them.
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby EdselDan on Tue May 31, 2016 11:06 pm

Being Custom produced anything is possible!!

Also, Upgrade parts were likely added during refurishment.

Pocomoke had 2 near Identical ALF900's
1 was sold, the other refurbished
NOT by ALF, but Pierce!!
Interesting looking rig after to say the least
Strobes in some marker lights!!!!
Sadly that one was sold too a few years later
BUT Might still be near by!!
Currently our Oldest piece is a 78/79 Seagrave
Looks Very Different from delivery status
Had a single Rotator on the roof and was solid red
Now had a Whelan Edge bar & is white over red!!

As for ALF Facilities,
My Grandparents lived on an Island in the Ohio River Not far from Downtown Pittsburgh.
ALF had a LARGE repair/refurbish facility there.
Wish I had gotten to visit!!
They Bought a Century the year I lived there!!
They still had it last time I was up there. But, No one in the family is on the Island anymore so......
(besides the fact my car does not like to go more the 15 miles from home!!!)
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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:21 am

Dan, The island is Neville Island. I too never went to the rehab center :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_T ... nnsylvania

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Re: American LaFrance cabs Forgotten?

Postby EdselDan on Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:46 am

CORRECT!!!
As I said, My Grandparents lived there!!
Next to the Police Station!!!
202 Third Ave!!!
Gandma's Sister lived across the street on the corner of Grand Ave.

The Fire Department moved from the Middle of the Block between Second & Third
to near Phillips Ave at the Playground. They took over the Tennis courts & a baseball field

There is now a LARGE Sports complex at the End of the Island at the Coraopolis Bridge!!!

ALF moved from the Old location
to a Steel building Almost under I-79 owned by an Uncle
Company name was Rich Leasing!!!

Of Course, they closed that with their second shutdown!!

And recently found out a nearby company has an Eagle!!!
Look Up "MARION", Md.!!!!! VERY Small town!!
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