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Ideas, Please

Postby jimb on Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:14 pm

So yesterday I picked up the following kits at the Syracuse IPMS show:

1941 Chevrolet Pick-Up
1950 Chevrolet 3100 Pick-Up
1950 Ford F1 Pick-Up
1978 Dodge Little Red Express

And what I'm looking for are some build ideas for the 1941 Chevrolet & the 1950 Ford F1. The 1950 Chevrolet & the 1978 Dodge I've got covered.

For the 1941 Chevrolet I was thinking of possible a U.S. Navy truck, but I don't have any photos of them being used in the Navy. I have no reason to believe that they weren't.

The 1950 Ford F1 is different. I don't have any plans for this one. I was thinking of using this utility body, though:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Resin-Service-U ... _592wt_900

Would that body be appropriate for fire/EMS for the 1950s? I just need to get rid of those white-wall tires!
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby maxwell48098 on Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:47 pm

I'm from that era. The Ford panel trucks were what the local towns around where I grew up in suburban Chicago used for their rescues or as they were called back then, "first aid squad" while they used pickups for utility or brush fire rigs. We were in Darley country, so I still recall a few late '40's- early '50's F3 pickups with front mounted pumps probably 300 - 500 gpm pickups and a 150 - 250 gallon water tank in the beds. One town near where I grew up used a '53 Ford F100 for their deluge unit to serve the local oil refinery and some local large manufacturing plants/warehouses. They also had a '55 Ford F100 that they built a box cover over the back of the bed to haul the barrels of foam concentrate like they did in Philly.

Here's some of the early Fords that I built:
1950 For F3 brush truck
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1953 Ford F100 Utility
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby jimb on Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:59 pm

Those are nice models, & some good ideas. I'm liking the brush truck concept.
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby traumahawk05 on Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:21 pm

In William Killen's book, Navy & Marine Corp Fire Apparatus, there is a picture of a 1941 Chevrolet 1 ton with a W.S. Darley pump, a water tank, and booster reel similar to what is posted above. The pump was mounted directly behind the cab and the bed was moved backwards to accommodate the pump.

Similar to this unit: http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/09/77/84/c10.jpg

A fire patrol rig would not be out of the question for this time period.
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby jimb on Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:02 am

Thanks for the pics, traumahawk05. I appreciate it. Does sort of validate the US Navy option. I know the US Army used them for a little while as telephone repair trucks before being replaced by the Dodge during the war. Just out of curiosity, what is the make of the truck you posted?
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby chariots of fire on Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:21 pm

Back in the 1950's and '60's Civil Defense units would have been popular. Typically they were white with blue fenders. First Gear put out a couple of them, one of which was a 1950's Ford. Very basic equipment, NO ems stuff. That really did not come into its own until the mid 1970's. They would have had First Aid rigs with folding stretchers, simple O2 bottle and some small cases for bandages, etc. Hand tools were also put on them. Utility trucks like Metro's and Chevy and GMC panel trucks were also used. First Gear did one of those also. You should be able to find plenty of examples on line.
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby jimb on Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:48 pm

Hmm, Civil Defense. Interesting. I hadn't thought of that.
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby maxwell48098 on Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:41 pm

Again, from my childhood, in our area every Civil Defense vehicle was a panel truck that carried all sorts of rescue equipment inside. CD was pretty popular from the early '50's to mid-'60's. Here are a couple that I built:
1950 Chevrolet 3600 4X4 Panel
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1953 IH Metro Civil Defense Van
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1953 Willys Panel CD Rescue
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby jimb on Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:46 pm

Those are pretty cool, A.J. I'd just need to figure out where to get the Civil Defense decals.
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby traumahawk05 on Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:06 pm

I believe that I posted a picture of a late 1941, early 1942 Chevrolet 3600 (3/4 ton) truck, although I'm not sure if the 3600 is the correct model for that era of Chevrolet trucks. I know that the '48s and later used the 3x00 model numbers, but I can never remember if GM used that during the '40s.

Check out: http://www.stovebolt.com/gallery/gallery%2041%2046.html for more options for the '41 Chevy pickup.

You could also make a 2 ton by cutting the fender openings and using the wheels and tires from the Italeri Opel Blitz, like Firemodelman did with his '41 parade rig: http://public.fotki.com/firemodelman/19 ... olet-fire/

There's also Jimmy Flintstone's '30-'40 utility body: http://www.jimmyflintstonestudios.com/v ... ductid=735
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby chariots of fire on Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:52 pm

jimb wrote:Those are pretty cool, A.J. I'd just need to figure out where to get the Civil Defense decals.

Jim: E-mail me please.
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Re: Ideas, Please

Postby jimb on Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:26 pm

traumahawk05 wrote:I believe that I posted a picture of a late 1941, early 1942 Chevrolet 3600 (3/4 ton) truck, although I'm not sure if the 3600 is the correct model for that era of Chevrolet trucks. I know that the '48s and later used the 3x00 model numbers, but I can never remember if GM used that during the '40s.

Check out: http://www.stovebolt.com/gallery/gallery%2041%2046.html for more options for the '41 Chevy pickup.

You could also make a 2 ton by cutting the fender openings and using the wheels and tires from the Italeri Opel Blitz, like Firemodelman did with his '41 parade rig: http://public.fotki.com/firemodelman/19 ... olet-fire/

There's also Jimmy Flintstone's '30-'40 utility body: http://www.jimmyflintstonestudios.com/v ... ductid=735


Actually I need a set of the Opel Blitz wheels for another F1 that i want to convert to an F8.
http://public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25th ... _december/
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