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Swab ambulance

Postby explorer2770 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:08 am

Anybody ever build a 1963 ish Swab Type I ambulance?
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I'm trying to figure out some general measurements for the ambulance box while I await warmer weather for my other projects.

Thanks for any help!
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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby chariots of fire on Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:30 pm

Here are a couple of thoughts for you.
1. Width of the box is only slightly more than the width of the cab. Use that for reference. probabaly 3-4" wider on each side.
2. Looks like a standard P/U chassis with perhaps an 8' pickup bed. Dimensions of the box look similar before and after the wheel well.
Try drawing this out to scale and see how it looks on paper. Your eye will tell you if it comes close to the photo proportionally.
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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby AMT4EVR on Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:51 pm

Yes, I may be able to help you. If you can track down a copy of this book; A HISTORY THE AMBULANCE by Ryan Corbett Bell you will find on page 222 a schematic drawing of that squad box. It's a swab EAGLE 110 model .Plus this book has a lot of great reading and more photos too. GOOD LUCK with your project .....John
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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby hookandladderno1 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:16 pm

Brandon,
Funny you mention this project, as I bought a 65 Chevy pickup kit for $5.00 at a show last year. It was missing the bed, but I thought it would make a great Swab ambulance. If you aren't able to locate the book mentioned above, you could try reaching out to Swab directly. They are still in business, and may still have info in their archives. Good luck, and keep us posted!


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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby explorer2770 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:53 pm

Thanks for the heads up about the book, I'll request it through interlibrary loan tomorrow.

I followed Charlie's advice and drew this up tonight:
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I don't think the windows are in the correct spot, but not bad for a rough mock-up. Top one is 70" tall (7 cm) while the bottom one is 65" tall (6.5 cm), box is 108" long and 80" wide for both drawings. I might move the axle forward by a mm or two since the '65 Chevy cab has a slight overhang which won't allow it to butt up against the box.

Dave, I'm going to redo the chassis on the '65 since I want it to be a 60" cab to axle and the rear end on these 1 tons used leaf spring suspension. I'll take pictures and measurements as I go and send those down to you.
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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby Aaronw on Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:22 pm

I was going to guess about 11 foot on the box, so at 10' 8" I think you are probably pretty close. You figure 7 feet for the gurney, a little space around it and an airway seat or storage at the front, and it is unlikely to be less than 10 feet.

The shortest modern modular box I could find was 150" (12 6") but those earlier ambulances tended to be a bit more compact, I'm also not sure if those Swabs had an airway seat at the head of the gurney, but with the forward side window, I assume there is.
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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby GLMFAA1 on Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:10 pm

Another source of information maybe the PCS
http://www.professionalcarsociety.org/index.php

I checked there is no data there, but you can join with no cost and post a request
Steve from Maryland might be of assist, I believe he is a member here but I don't know what his handle is here.
there was a mention of a Swab facebook site
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Swab-Amb ... 6899803277

My research reveals some measurements come in total length including cab circa 1970's 250 to 263, height from 104 to 95, width of 92 to 95 inches, one box measurement were 129 to 138
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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby explorer2770 on Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:40 pm

Thanks guys. The book should be here in a couple of days, until then I'll gather some more information. I'm going to have to order a lot of micromark rivet decals since these old ambulance boxes are covered in rivets.

Aaron, here's an interior shot of Baltimore's SAB-9, the 110" box, that I found over at the yngfire.com forums.
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Not the ideal in creature comforts or equipment, but it got the job done. Things have definitely changed over the past 52 years since that rig hit the streets.

I did find some interesting specs over at EMSmuseum.org about the Modulance ambulances from Modular Ambulance Corporation. They had two type I designs that offered interior lengths of 140" or 120", interior heights of 60", and 80" (single) or 90" (dual) interior widths.
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http://www.emsmuseum.org/virtual-museum ... orp-Type-I

The smallest Type I that I can still find in produced is Horton's 403: 137" L x 96" W x 68 interior H
McCoy-Miller's 142" body (142” L x 96” W x 68” interior H)
Braun Express (F-350) 144" L x 93" W x 68" iH
PL Custom has a 147" long box
Road Rescue makes a 146" long box
LifeLine: 147" L x 68" H
Crestline: 151" L x 90" iW x 66" interior H
AEV: 148" x 95" x 68" Interior H
Wheeled Coach GSA: 142" L x 95" W x 68" iH

Type III's are about the same size. Horton's 403: 137" L x 96" W x 68" interior H
McCoy-Miller's 142" (142”L x 90”W x 66” interior H)
Braun Express: 144" L x 93" W x 68" iH
AEV DR-90: 145" x 92" x 66" Interior H
Wheeled Coach GSA: 142" L x 95" W x 68" iH
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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby explorer2770 on Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:23 am

I spent an entire night on the Swab facebook page and didn't find much there in the way of drawings, but I did find plenty of pictures for future projects.

I did find something interesting on Swab's website, plans for their Pioneer series of EMS cabinets.

http://www.swabwagon.com/drawings
http://www.swabwagon.com/files/pioneer/farmington.pdf
http://www.swabwagon.com/files/pioneer/millersburg.pdf
http://www.swabwagon.com/files/pioneer/stamford.pdf

I think that box will look real good behind the new Meng Ford, but I think I'll have to settle for the Revell Dodge Ram SVT right now.
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Re: Swab ambulance

Postby explorer2770 on Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:38 pm

The Ambulance, A History book arrived today and it is very neat. After looking at the original Swab drawings, here's my updated drawings for my project.

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While I did scan the drawings from the book, I'd rather not tempt copyright fate and post them on the net.

According to the drawings, the interior measurements are 110" long by 74" wide by 52" tall with 2" wide walls and designed for a 60" cab to axle 1 ton chassis (I gave it a 2" buffer between the box and the cab). Rear door opening is 50" wide by 48" tall, side door is 30" wide by 64" tall, the left from compartment is 16 by 30 and the rear compartments are 30 by 14. I modified the compartment doors to be 32" wide.

Now to build it.
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