Wildland tools by region

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Wildland tools by region

Postby Aaronw on Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:27 am

I'm working on a little something for wildland tools and need some idea of what is used where. Since we have a fairly broad geographic base here I thought I'd try an unscientific poll of the SFH members.

I'm going to list some tools, and just need to know if they are in use where you live (or have lived). By used I'm assuming something fairly common you would find on most brush engines, so more than "there is one in the junk room at the station someone acquired out of state". I have a general idea, but could really use some local knowledge.

If there is a tool in use I don't list please throw it out, same goes for local names. I've included a link to each tool in case
you know it by another name.

Pulaski (axe / adze)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1296

McLeod (rake / hoe)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1308

Fire shovel (short handled shovel, aka forestry shovel, ladies shovel)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1314

Fire rake (aka Council tool / Council rake, Rich tool, mower blade tool)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1302

Swatter (aka Flapper, fire flail, mud flap tool)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1320

Combi tool
http://www.nationalfirefighter.com/prod ... ts_id=1169

Fire broom
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1316

Brush hook
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1300

Hazel hoe (adze)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1294

Bent shovel (aka Rhino, Rhienhart tool)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1294

Indian can (hardside) or bladder bag (soft side)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... cts_id=266
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... cts_id=269

Drip torch (aka orchard torch, Panama torch)
http://www.cascadefire.com/index.php?ma ... ts_id=1235

Leaf blower
http://www.stihlusa.com/blowers/BR500.html

Leaf rake
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07183641000P

Bow rake
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1260 ... ckType=G20



I assume chainsaws and axes are pretty universal

Thanks
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Re: Wildland tools by region

Postby bigdogb25 on Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:01 pm

Sorry I didn't post sooner Aaron. We carry a little of everything you listed on our state trucks. I have a couple Pulaskis, 2 Mcleods, a brusk hook, 2 shovels, 2 combi tools and one of the folding leaf rakes on my truck. Also have two bladder bags and a small chain saw (only 16" :oops: ). My section warden took my portable pump and put it on our type 3 engine. The area I mainly work in is a lot of lowland hardwoods with some pine woods mixed in so what we can't run down with the trucks we usually wind up doing a hose lay so I've got about 300' of 1 3/4" hose, 300' of 1" and about 1000' of mop-up hose. We do use leaf blowers where we can. The northern sections are also using quads and atv's a lot more. We used to carry fire brooms but I haven't seen a new one of those for a long time. I think the only thing we use back east that is different than your list would be the cranco drip torch. I posted a short video I found. The guy handling the torch is going to be our Division Warden in a few weeks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN3iCofQQ3c

I do have a Western drip torch and 3 or 4 old Indian Tanks that I inherited from one of our retired wardens but they usually just come out for training or a Smokey-the-Bear program.

I'll try to post some pics this week.

Local volunteers usually just carry a few bladder bags and a few fire brooms or swatters. The ones near me don't carry any hard-core hand tools - some of the northern departments do because they work in the closest thing we have to "mountains." Some carry chain saws and portable pumps.
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Re: Wildland tools by region

Postby Aaronw on Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:04 am

Thanks, the McLeod was one in particular I curious about. The USFS is very proud of the Pulaski and how wide spread it became, but much less so about the McLeod so I wasn't sure if it was seen outside of the west.

I've never seen one of those Cranco torches before, it looks like someone glued two of our drip torches together, then jammed a car antenna in the spout. :D

So no use of the fire rake or swatter around you that you know of? As far as I know the fire rakes are primarily a southern / south eastern tool (mostly a swamp thing), but not sure how far up they are typically found. I've only seen them when they follow a crew returning from Florida.

Swatters are mostly a grass thing, we used them in Arizona on the border, and I saw them in Hawaii, but they are pretty rare in most of California and Nevada. I assume they are pretty common in the midwest with all that open grassland.
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Re: Wildland tools by region

Postby bigdogb25 on Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:10 am

My bad - do have 2 fire rakes as well. Don't use them very often but they are in there. I think I use the pulaski more than anything where I normally work. I don't know of any state trucks carrying swatters - seems to be mostly on volly trucks around me.

The last few years they have been giving each section an "allowance" and letting them purchase whatever equipment they want off the GSA list so its possible that there could be just about anything around the State. I'll ask around a bit and see what I can come up with.
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Re: Wildland tools by region

Postby chariots of fire on Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:45 pm

pump cans, fire rake, chain saws, short handle shovels. That's about it. Most of our work is with the breakers that can get to the fire directly. 1" forestry lines in 300 ft coils and booster hose on reels round out the equipment.
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Re: Wildland tools by region

Postby Aaronw on Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:44 pm

I didn't expect to see fire rakes listed in the north east, I've always associated them with swampy areas. I guess it is more of an southern and east coast tool, than limited to the south and south east.

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Re: Wildland tools by region

Postby Paul B on Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:09 pm

Most important tool: Bendix King radio. Used for requesting a dozer or hand crew. Much better than using those other tools. ;)
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Re: Wildland tools by region

Postby Pinolafire on Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:55 pm

Paul B wrote:Most important tool: Bendix King radio. Used for requesting a dozer or hand crew. Much better than using those other tools. ;)



AMEN!!!!!

and keeps some of us in a job :lol:
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