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AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby cdnguy68 on Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:34 pm

Has anyone successfully taken the AMT ALF Ladder Chief and moved the turntable from the rear to more of a mid-chassis mount?

Is it even possible with the kit as issued? (Yes, I'm assuming some scratch-building will be required).
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:41 pm

I guess my photos have been deleted by photobucket so here is a repeat
The midmount ALF
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The parts used:
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A little detail of the turntable and jack modifications
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Rear profile
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The rear ladder rack
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The interior of the open cab:
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Ultimate turntable modification:
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby maxwell48098 on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:57 pm

Here's a mid-mount I did years ago. Image
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Here's my version of an ALF Tractor Drawn Aerial
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby cdnguy68 on Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:57 pm

Thanks, gents!

Photobucket has indeed been cruel with image removal so I appreciate you re-posting your efforts. I'm envious of the finished work on a TAL units as well. Those are probably beyond my ambitions in the short term, but making a mid-mount (and going open cab) is certainly do-able.
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby explorer2770 on Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:09 pm

Here's a drawing of a Ford C/ALF mid-mount that might be helpful for making your conversion.

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http://www.smcars.net/attachments/american-lafrance-ford-c-aerial-dim-diag-jpg.60495/

This conversion is definitely on my bucket list. If I could find a 700 series cab, I could even make Fremont's first aerial ladder.
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:18 pm

Maybe we need to ask the elf at shapeway store to let santa know how we would all like to have a 700 ALF
anyways a blast from the past the 'how to' from the late Ted Calvin if you are ambitious
The templates are from bottom to top
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Sorry the windshield template is missing as I used it
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby chariots of fire on Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:00 am

Funny thing you should post that about the 700 ALF. I have a partially finished casting of an open cab 700 that Tom Coolidge began. He sent it to me quite a while ago to finish off. His idea was to do a basic casting and then let the individual modeler do whatever detailing he wanted. I will drag it out so you can see how far he got. Forgot to say it is 1/25 scale.
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby explorer2770 on Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:29 am

Fremont ran two 700 series pumpers and one 700 series midmount, all open cabs. Between Ted Calvin's plans and the re-release of the AMT 1000 series cabs, all that is really needed is a casting of the front nose and windshield to make things easier.

Of course, I should probably just try my hand at making it on my own...but where's the fun in that.
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:40 am

Charlie: I was going to contact you about that as when I researched the plans to see if PB blocked them I came across your thread from 2010. Hope you can do it justice and maybe get it to aim for repos
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby chariots of fire on Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:26 pm

My word! Was it that far back?? :o
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby explorer2770 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:46 pm

I found this on Klaus Lassen (truckin24) website a long time ago and rediscovered it today, so I though I would share.

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Some simple translation:
a. Ladder chief chassis
b. The engine cowling must be reduced because of the turntable of the ladder (notch the doghouse to let the turn table fit)
c. Component for holding the hydraulic system and the ladder, dimensions: length 72 mm, width 72 mm, height 43 mm
d. Aggregate fairing (better translation - spacer box/cabinet so turn table works) : Long 30 mm, width 64 mm, height 26 mm
e. AMT ALF pumper side panels with wheelwell and compartments
f. “Rotate” the Ladder Chief turntable/ladder assembly 180 degree and mount “horizontally”
g. Retractable 3-piece ladders
h. Construction (cabinet) for holding firefighting equipment
i. Hydraulic sockets from Ladder Chief
j. Flaps of the stowage or drawer, dimensions of: 1 = 14x29 mm, 2 = 14x55 mm, 3 = 14x51mm, 4 = 14x51 mmm
k. “Life Net” box 12 x 29 mm
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby maxwell48098 on Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:05 pm

I bought those conversion instructions and used them for several different models back in the '80's that I showed here earlier.
Here's a 1957 ALF 700 MMA modeled after one locally where I grew up
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Here's a 1950 ALF 700 pumper
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Here's a 1957 ALF 700 pumper based off one from Riverside IL
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:40 am

Great set of old alffies, Hope you plan on being a participant in the reunion muster, all are welcome

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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby Gator52 on Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:27 pm

Some excellent models there!

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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby sffire on Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:56 pm

Job Well Done. Great detail
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Re: AMT ALF Turntable Ladder conversion?

Postby youngtiger1 on Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:00 pm

Some great builds/conversions you all have done. I would love to have a open cab truck in 1/24-25, so brother Charlies please pull out the unfinished cab and finish it for us mortals :D

Btw, interesting point I see...there are plans that one can purchase to convert trucks...hmm! Where can one purchase these plans? TIA
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