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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Aaronw on Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:01 am

Chris wrote:Looks like a grasshopper that got caught on a car antenna.



I often wonder how many people considered staying with a sinking boat or taking their chances crawling through enemy lines with one leg shot off instead of getting into a flying lawnmower with some obviously crazy air crews.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Jeff_C on Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:49 pm

The Revell EC-135 kit in 1/72 scale is garbage IMHO.

I was working on one for the contest but had to drop it because of complications. Stuff doesn't fit, and very small parts, and overall a royal PITA to build.

It's just not up to the same quality standards as found in the larger scales.

I would suggest the bigger 1/48 or 1/32 scale helicopter kits such as:

RVL4481 1/32 Eurocopter EC145 ADAC
RVL4402 1/32 Medicopter 117
RVL4484 1/32 Eurocopter EC135 Polis
RVL4479 1/32 Bell 206 Jet Ranger German Civilian
RVL4640 1/48 SH-60B Seahawk
RVL4641 1/48 Chinook HC1 Mk I RAF

The Seahawk can be easily converted into a Coast Guard Jayhawk, and the Chinook can be stripped of it's military gear and marked as a civil version.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Jeff_C on Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:22 pm

Aaronw wrote:
bigdogb25 wrote:How do you guys build these in 72nd scale??!!!! :( :? . I'm having enough trouble with the 1/48 blackhawk. I'd need 2 magnifying glasses and three sets of tweezers to even get started.

BTW - is that the new "split-shot radome" in the nose section :mrgreen: .



That is the new replacement motor, its getting hard to find a Pratt & Whitney radial engine these days. :mrgreen:

I've had a couple of people comment on the weight which has put the insane idea of building one of these with the clamshell open exposing a fully detailed engine compartment. I could probably steal a motor from a Ford Tri-motor. That does sound like a lot of work though. :shock:


Ah here is a pic, yep a lot of scratchbuilding but it would be a neat display.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... engine.jpg


Try Engines & Things to see if they have something close for an engine.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby ChrisMooney on Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:21 pm

Now i have to take my Monogram 1/25 scale huey out and finish it for LA County.... :) Nice

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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby smokeater81 on Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:06 pm

I found a 1/32 scale Revell Bell Jet Ranger. I might but 2 of them and extend it to make a long ranger like my friend flies in at Air Evac.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Aaronw on Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:59 pm

Jeff_C wrote:The Revell EC-135 kit in 1/72 scale is garbage IMHO.

I was working on one for the contest but had to drop it because of complications. Stuff doesn't fit, and very small parts, and overall a royal PITA to build.

It's just not up to the same quality standards as found in the larger scales.

I would suggest the bigger 1/48 or 1/32 scale helicopter kits such as:

RVL4481 1/32 Eurocopter EC145 ADAC
RVL4402 1/32 Medicopter 117
RVL4484 1/32 Eurocopter EC135 Polis
RVL4479 1/32 Bell 206 Jet Ranger German Civilian
RVL4640 1/48 SH-60B Seahawk
RVL4641 1/48 Chinook HC1 Mk I RAF

The Seahawk can be easily converted into a Coast Guard Jayhawk, and the Chinook can be stripped of it's military gear and marked as a civil version.


I forgot about the 1/32 versions of the Eurocopters.

I was only mentioning out of the box stuff, but Cobra Company and Fireball Modelworks have conversion kits for making an SH-60 into an HH-60J Jayhawk. Cobra Company has one for 1/48, Fireball's is for 1/72. I have the Fireball kit and it is very nice.


You mentioned Engines & things, I was not familiar with the company. Unfortunately there was a post at ARC that the owner of Engines & things died a few days ago.


For a Long Ranger you might find this to be a useful post.

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/ind ... longranger
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby smokeater81 on Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:21 pm

Thanks
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Jeff_C on Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:27 am

Cobra Company also makes firefighting tanks for Hueys in both 1/48 and 1/72 scales.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Aaronw on Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:31 pm

Jeff_C wrote:Cobra Company also makes firefighting tanks for Hueys in both 1/48 and 1/72 scales.


If anybody is interested in these tanks please buy them. People kept bugging him to add some firefighting equipment to his line. Unfortunately the sales of these tanks has been poor making him very reluctant to make any other firefighting parts, and likely to drop these when the molds wear out.

I have two of the 1/72 and one of the 1/48 tanks, they are nicely cast like all of the Cobra Company stuff. He also makes a 1/72 S-58T turbine conversion for the UH-34.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Aaronw on Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:40 pm

Got some work done on my USCG Helo

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I designed and printed all of the decals, the paint is school bus yellow which looks pretty close to the handful of color photos I've seen of these helos.

This was also one of those warnings to using brands you are not familiar with. I had my wife pick this paint up, the store was out of Duplicolor and this was some kind of oil based equipment paint. It took a good 6 hours to "dry" (still tacky feeling but no dust or finger print issues) and a week to 10 days until it actually felt dry. I let it sit for another week just to be safe before giving it a coat of Future.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby hooknladderno1 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:23 pm

Aaron,
Nice job with both the paint and decals. The paint/Future looks really smooth.


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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby ChrisMooney on Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:01 am

Looks great Aaron, Nice decal job too
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Aaronw on Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:12 pm

Here is the completed HO4S-3G

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I've had this one coming along behind it, a USCG HUS-1G (H-34). I'm using the Hobby Boss UH-34D kit, its not as nice as the Italeri kit but I needed the earlier bent leg style landing gear which is not in the Italeri kit. I made the decals for this one as well. The HUS-1G was intended to replace the HO4S-3G but the USCG had very bad luck with them. Of the 6 they purchased they lost 3 in just a few years of service and the HO4S-3G ended up remaining in service well into the 60's.

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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Tiny 26 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:46 am

Excellent Work!!
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Pinolafire on Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:05 am

Oh sure...Rub it in....
I can't even find my paint.....I hate moving...

Aaron this is very Cool
Awesome Coastie ride
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby bigdogb25 on Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:06 pm

Nice job Aaron - like always.

You gonna do the whole H-Series?? ;)
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Aaronw on Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:04 pm

bigdogb25 wrote:Nice job Aaron - like always.

You gonna do the whole H-Series?? ;)



Well.... :oops: this is my 3rd H-19 and I have a 4th in the early stages (this one with pontoons). I think I mentioned getting onto a bit of a helicopter groove lately. :mrgreen:

USMC HRS (H-19)

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USN HUP-1

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USAF H-21(in progress)

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US Army

AH-64D

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RAH-66 (actually finished this but no finished photo)

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USCG

HO4S-3G (mid 60s)

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HH-65A

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My latest addition

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Re: Aircraft Group Build

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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Pinolafire on Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:32 pm

Ok..
I got my photos for the build so...after screwin' around for nearly four months...We'll call it my offical start to my Aircraft build.
I'm bulding the SOMS bird for the NAS Meridian (MS)
SOMS is Squadron Operations and Maint. Squadron. One SOMS mission is to man the rescue bird...(often called by their callsign "ANGEL")

I'm fishing around for a 1/35 scale UH 1(N) but may need to settle for a UH1(B) ( the B model is older and single engine )

I'm still shopping for the actual kit...but thanks to Tiny the Modeler Inc
I have the paint needed to complete the bird (the only place I could find the dayglo orange in stock :D ...You da Man )

Here's what what it should look like or close to it when we finish ..this photo is from airliners.net / photo credit Gary Chambers
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I'm going to use a bit of creative license on my markings and finish details
We're (Justin and I ) planning to add a bit of extra and different markings that isn't (or wasn't) on the original "Angel" I remember.

More updates as work progresses
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Tiny 26 on Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:00 pm

That's gonna be cool. I've started my Huey, but so far, all I've done is clean parts & use sanding sticks on the joints. No glue has touched plastic yet.

Still not 100% sure on paint. It's part of the St. John deal - yellow with green accents is what I'm leaning toward.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Pinolafire on Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:32 am

That'll be cool

Question: Do we post In progress pictures here or in the In Progress section tagged as Aircraft build....

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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Tiny 26 on Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:56 pm

I guess like "No Model Left Behind 2009", post it in "In Progress" with a notation about being part of this build.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby Aaronw on Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:01 pm

Alrighty then, it has become very quiet in here so...

My latest addition, Airfix's 1/72 Grumman Duck. I'll be building this as a USCG plane based near San Francisco on Dec 7, 1941. It will be silver with yellow wings.

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I like the little office in the pontoon. :D
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby ChrisMooney on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:15 am

I love it too. I have a very soft spot for Aircraft.
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Re: Aircraft Group Build

Postby hooknladderno1 on Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:37 pm

Aaron,
While surfing the Net over the weekend, I came across a photo of a 205A utilized by the LA County Fire Department as Copter 16 back around 2000. I found the picture on Airliners.net. The beauty of this aircraft is that unlike any of the other aircraft projects that I wanted to do, I could pretty much build this one stock right out of the box. I may take the kit with me on my trip to the beach for four days. In the one photo that I have seen, it is painted in the current LACo.FD white/yellow/black paint scheme. This may be a good chance to learn the different skills required for aircraft building as opposed to the wheeled vehicles that I am used to building. Anyone know of any other references for this particular aircraft? A couple that I have looked into require memberships. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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