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New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Daveski25 on Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:35 pm

Anyone interested in a group build for 2015?

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Modelmaker on Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:53 am

Dave, What did you have in Mind???????.....Gary :D :D :D
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:36 pm

Depends upon what you have in mind. Dryside tanker? USAR? Hazmat? Flatbed? Antique?

I wouldn't mind adding a wildland type III or similar truck to Gabels Corner's inventory.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Daveski25 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:23 am

Well there's a couple Ideas, Wildland, Dryside Tanker, or maybe a brushtruck?

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby MMFAAFireModel on Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:11 pm

I vote brush truck. I might actually build something.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:24 pm

Well, I think I'm prepared for a brush truck. I have a couple of these engines ready:
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Daveski25 on Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:26 pm

I like that idea! I'm up for building a brush truck!

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Modelmaker on Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:50 pm

I'm up for a brush Truck as Rugby Jct FD needs a small brush truck to help the big Military tanker brush truck conversion that we have.....Gary
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:11 am

Traditionally Group Builds here have foundered after a decent start, so I vote keep it simple. Brush trucks can be pretty simple so that has my vote (plus I like building them anyway ;) ).
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:14 am

explorer2770 wrote:Well, I think I'm prepared for a brush truck. I have a couple of these engines ready:
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What is the V-twin from? It's not a bad stand in for a Briggs & Stratton Vanguard 18-23hp motor.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Daveski25 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:56 am

Let's do it then! I am excited!! Great to see some of you on board with me. By the way, how did you make the vanguard motor? ;)

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:01 pm

Aaron, the V-twin is my own adaptation of the garden tractor engine from the MPC turbine kit. I cut up two of the MPC covers to make the face plate, then used the cylinder heads from a motorbike engine from the Datsun kit. A couple of other parts and pieces pulls it together, I even cast the muffler from a Revell 1/32 Ford Mustang to make a muffler for the engine (not pictured). Overall, it is a little big, closer to 1/22 scale now, but it'll work in a pinch.

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby hookandladderno1 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:40 pm

Did someone say brush truck? Count me IN! So many possibilities! Can't wait to see everyone get started.


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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:47 pm

Do we want to make this a little more interesting by selecting a particular pickup truck kit to use or just let everyone have at it?
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby hooknladderno1 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:13 pm

explorer2770 wrote:Do we want to make this a little more interesting by selecting a particular pickup truck kit to use or just let everyone have at it?

I would suggest to keep it open. With so many different varieties and options, it will make for a very interesting Group Build! Also with the economy and upcoming holidays, it might be a stress on some to have to buy a new kit, etc. Just my thoughts...


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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:13 pm

Do brush trucks you have already built count?? :lol: Actually Aaron has given me some tips on building a USFS rig and that would fit right in. So brush truck/wildland interface rigs: I'm In!! :D
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Daveski25 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:18 pm

I say any type of brush truck or will and unit is acceptable. Use a kit you already have.

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:32 pm

Here I go...

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby hookandladderno1 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:46 pm

Dave,
This would be a great chance for me to finish a project that I started over 30 years ago! Lack of skills, knowledge and materials kept me from getting very far with it. I've puttered with it off and on over the years, but still haven't gotten very far. So, here goes:
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:18 pm

While a 2015 GB, shall we say starting December 2014 (now) so people can take advantage of the extra time off due to the holidays?

I've already got a few ideas floating around and 2 weeks of annual leave scheduled starting Monday.


Brandon that is an excellent use of parts, I recognized the little tractor engine, but once bashed with the other parts I wouldn't have guessed it was a part of the V-twin. Which raises another thought with this GB, brush trucks offer some great opportunities for simple but effective parts bashing and scratchbuilding, from the often exposed tanks, pumps and plumbing, to brush guards and tools. Hopefully we will see a bunch of mini-tutorials come out of this.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:44 pm

For those of you who might be new to building a model of a brush unit, let me add my two cents for what it is worth. With the exception of departments like FDNY or USFS who might have their own specifications for brush units, most departments that have to fight brush or forest fires do so with whatever they have available or with rigs that are designed and built following their particular situations. So be free with your ideas. One thing to remember, though. These rigs spend a lot of time off road or on cart paths where tree branches and rocks occasionally do their thing. You won't find large deck guns or monitors that flow large amounts of water since most rigs don't carry that much. Hand tools are still essential. Back packs or "pump cans" are still used as well. Small diameter hose like rubber booster hose and forestry hose is very desireable. Portable pumps also are needed.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:56 pm

I think Charlie should be appointed judge for this group build and has displayed his qualifications. So come 2016 he would judge 'best of brush 2015'

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:50 pm

I'd be honored to do that if you guys want me to. I'll keep my USFS project over in the "In Progress" section and out of the running. Hope I'm around in 2016 to post the results! :D
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:28 pm

Well, since I sort of started my build last night, I agree with Aaron that we can start now. I know that I won't be able to get paint on anything until spring but I have some time to work on major components and other things right now.

Charlie, I'm okay with you contributing your build here since this is a friendly, non-competitive build, sorta of like an NNL for fire modelers. I'll be following your build closely, I have been thinking about a UI pumper on the Ford L chassis and I might just have to make one now. I do have to ask how you made your square pipe fittings, those intrigue me.

Greg, your build sounds fun.

I'm still debating what I want to focus on as a primary build, either a '78 Ford F350 camper special with skid unit, a '99 Silverado long bed skid unit, or a Unimog flatbed. I'm not too thrilled about the Ford, the kit chassis is warped and I haven't had much luck recently with straightening them...decisions, decisions.

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Daveski25 on Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:05 am

I agree on starting now. And I like the idea of Charlie judging it as well! Now to decide what to build??? :?
So many ideas!!! Heres a few I have floating around!

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