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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Sun May 24, 2015 2:54 pm

GLMFAA1 wrote:I finished mine
Had to add a little fun to it with the rabbit
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This is awesome, when you showed me the preview I thought you were going for a kind of cartoonish model, but this looks pretty accurate to my eye. I think the photo you posted at the beginning is all there is to remember the 2 Model Ts the Sierra bought (they had to buy the second after the first took a turn to fast and ended up in the Kings river). The uniform and equipment looks right for the period.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Sun May 24, 2015 8:18 pm

Thanks Aaron, I was hoping for your imprimatur :D . I just stuck Stan and Oliver in it just to keep the mood happy
I hope my fictitious left and rear sides are OK, the only thing that might have been was another sign in the back
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Icheymon on Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:25 pm

Hi, my name is Rich and I build fire engines. Seeing as I only have two brush trucks in my department and I was itching to get back to building I figured I would give it a shot with one of the Revell Unimog kits. Being a big fan of the Phoenix Fire Dept Unimogs I kinda went in that direction. Here is my efforts from last week.
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I think the end result is gonna be uglier than a pickle so I will be happy with that. I will see if I can finish up next week.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby hooknladderno1 on Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:28 am

Rich,
Great to see you back at the bench! Tim Bongard and I were just talking about one of Phoenix's older MB Unimog brush rigs that was featured on Facebook a while back. Only photo I have is borrowed from the Internet. Credit to original photographer.
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To my knowledge, no Unimog of this era is/was produced in 1/24-25 scale... I hope I am wrong, as it would make a neat model...


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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:54 am

There might be a kit of the older Unimog in 1/35, but if one exists in 1/24-25 I've never seen it. I prefer the earlier Unimog so would love to see one. The BLM used to use quite a few Unimogs in the Great Basin, the USFS has used a few but basically just as limited issue experimental engines.

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:34 pm

Keep 'em coming guys. I'm getting itchy to do the judging at the end of the year! 5 months down, 7 to go! :o :D :roll:
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:01 am

Finally got a little time to do something. I wasn't happy with the way the bed was coming along, big differences between the 1/2 ton bed and the 1 ton bed. I decided to go a little different route. Several western builders offered open tool bins along the sides of their apparatus beginning in the 1930s and 40s. This is a 1946 Dodge Van Pelt showing what these bins looked like.

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So I trimmed the side rails off of the truck bed and built a couple of these bins in their place using strip and sheet styrene. I also lengthened the side boards to match the longer bed.

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:36 pm

Any idea what that old rig is behind the Dodge? Fenders and tires look possibly like one of the USA rigs that were built by the Army back in the day.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:46 pm

Nope, post war conversion of a 1/2 track into a brush truck. It was still in service a few years back when I took the photos, but was temporarily out of action until they could find parts to fix the brakes.

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:20 am

Who neds brakes???? :lol: :lol:
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby GLMFAA1 on Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:56 am

chariots of fire wrote:Who neds brakes???? :lol: :lol:

Dale Earnhardt jr last race, ask Danica :o

back on topic I like the half track for a project, any 1/25,24 ones around?

The Unimog older versions can be found on LGB rail car and Pola had a grass cutting one with the funky wheels in G scale

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:09 pm

chariots of fire wrote:Who neds brakes???? :lol: :lol:



That was my thought too, I mean just how fast can it be and it is an armored truck, so use that oak tree over there as brakes. :D


Greg, unfortunately I know of nothing in 1/25, but lots of choices in 1/72 and 1/35. Trumpeter did a series of large scale 1/16 WW2 armor kits including a half track.

I do have more photos if someone wants to give it a go in another scale or by scratchbuilding.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby EdselDan on Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:16 pm

Actually, If you don't mind PAPER, There are a few 1/25 scale Half-Track Models out there!!!!!!

Here is one from "FLY";
http://www.ebay.com/itm/M3-A2-HALF-TRAC ... 43df8d36a1

I believe that GPM, Modelik and a few others also offer versions.

The Ford GPA Amphibiam Jeep is also made in 1/25 paper!

there are a number of Paper Fire apparatus out there too.
How about an Oshkosh T-3000??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251996447403?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

or a Fiat 621
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIAT-621-Polish ... 3cfc4c0241

Modelik also has a Bus on this chassis, and GPM offers a military truck

how about converting this police riot rig into firefighting??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Modelik-6-06-Po ... 33a51b6f6e

I have one of these!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you can Scratch-Build with Sheet styrene, etc, then you should be able to handle these.
But if you have not scratch-built anything, Be WARNED!!!!

These have MANY More parts than a similar plastic kit.
AND you have to SHAPE the part after cutting out

Some parts can be SMALL, Many of the companys offer Laser Cut parts for certain kits!!!

Here in the US, I am not sure where to look for these in stores.
Hobby Shops? Book Stores?? Specialty stores?

MOST have to be Imported, thus the price!

There is a FREE Square-body Crown Vic Fire Chief out there!!
I have a copy!
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:40 pm

That would be quite a scratch building project. Iconographx makes a walk around for a half track so there are plenty of reference materials available.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby EdselDan on Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:39 pm

Actually, it might be a little easier than it seems
If you own one of the Paper models, jut copy the printed parts
of the body to Styrene sheet, cut out, add details wanted, and assemble
I would likely start with a Kit chassis close to correct size or long that I could cut shorter
to correct length
Engine would be a Parts box item made to match, or be a Re-Engine
Tires, I am not 100% sure but think you can find somewhere
Track!!!
Either find a 1/35 scale tank with tracks the correct size & shape, or..........................
That is one segment that Paper model publishers offer as Laser Cut parts!!!

Easiest method would be to build the Paper model then paint red and add other fire equipment

But, parts pages can be VERY crowded with parts!!
of 10 pages, the FLY Model Halftrack has 6 of parts
3 are instructions. the other id=s the cover of the booklet
And it is large!! 16x12 INCHES!!!!!
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:17 pm

Here's some of my progress, my summer was taken up with other things. I painted the cab and body two weekends ago, finally got around to using Meguiar's Scratch X to buff it out this week. Most of the truck bed is mocked up, the pump is only glued to the silver base.

Need to add a battery and control panels, but probably won't do much more than adding connections hoses to the manifold. The chassis is assembled but the cab interior still needs a radio. The front bumper is coming along. Still have the little details, like interior door details, to get done before I can start final assembly, that's when I'll glue down the aluminum foil to the bed.

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Anyone know why Monogram never included interior door molding on this kit? Revell was able to do it with the '75 Chevy kit and they haven't updated this kit in all these years.

I made two mistakes on the bed body, I had a hole around one of the slam locks before painting that I forgot to fix, so some Bondo and paint afterwards makes it look like a nice "in-house" repair. The other mistake was mounting the rear step too high, I forgot that it was suppose to be flush to the bottom and not elevated. So much for my hope to mount hydrant wrenches back there like the prototype.

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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:53 pm

Higher rear step is not a bad thing. Less chance of getting hung up getting on and off of old dirt roads!
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby hiloyelp on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:35 pm

Gonio\Kaden makes US M-3 Halftracks in 1/24th scale metal and plastic. I have a couple. They are still out there, and somewhat pricey if you are going to cut them up for a brush truck! (Which I may do...............)
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby EdselDan on Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:05 pm

If you can find the Paper one here in the US, it might
be less than $10.oo!!

I went for a GMC Gasoline tanker that sold for $7.50!!
How many of Those Military Tankers were re-used as Fire tankers??
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby Aaronw on Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:51 pm

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This looks really good. Not sure if it was intentional, but the black you used really captures the sheen on the modern black poly tanks.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:56 pm

We've got some good stuff going here, guys. Now that autumn is almost on us, we will need to crank it up a bit before Jan. 1, 2016. That's the cutoff and when the judging will begin. ;)
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:05 pm

Aaronw wrote:This looks really good. Not sure if it was intentional, but the black you used really captures the sheen on the modern black poly tanks.


Aaron, Thanks. The sheen wasn't intentional, I just grabbed a can of Krylon satin black for the poly tank and got lucky.

Here's my progress from this weekend.
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Worked on the cab interior, I made some interior detail for the doors and an old Federal Signal PA20, I need to work on my microphone carvings, but it will work for this build. My reference pictures don't show where the light bar controls went on Lancaster's rig, so I'm going to wing it and mount it to the dash once I get it done. Also worked on the hose load until I ran out of elastic. still need to make up some hand nozzles and a control board for the pump, then I can finish up the bed.

Now I need some help. I can't decide which light bar looks better on the mock up, the old Twinsonic or the newer "Javelin" bar. The prototype used a MX7000, but I'm all out of those right now, so I think I'll stick with the Twinsonic. Classic look for a classic rig.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:35 pm

I think you made the right choice.
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby chariots of fire on Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:50 pm

How's everybody coming along on your builds? Coming up to the last quarter of the year in just a few days. Gotta get those entries completed by 1-1-16 to be considered eligible for the final results. ;)
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Re: New Group Build for 2015?

Postby explorer2770 on Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:00 pm

I'm done.

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